[Bing] [Tischbahn] - 11/935/5 (bzw. 61/3600/5) Bing box set no 5 / Gamages

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#1 | [Bing] [Tischbahn] - 11/935/5 (bzw. 61/3600/5) Bing box set no 5 / Gamages datum

14.11.2014 16:39 (zuletzt bearbeitet: 08.10.2018 11:04)

Hello fellow collectors.
Back in 2012 I won at auction, a Bing / Gamages yellow clockwork box set no 5. The box needed some repairs which I made good, one being the centre insert, and the other was that it missing was the label on the lid. The size of the label is 30,5 cms x 23cms.
What I could see was that under the yellow covering on the lid were lines, which made me believe that under the covering was a Bing label. I didn�t want to do anything with it in case it damaged the label.
On the base of the box, there wasn�t the set no ( 61/3600/5 ) but there 2 numbers, a 9 and a 54. I don�t know the meaning of these numbers, but I did think that the number 54 possibly meant that my box was the 54th made.
Last month, I won another Gamages box set. The lid was missing it�s edges, but it had a complete label and again, under the label I could see the same lines. The set differed to the first set in that the first set had a tender loco and 3 carriages, but the new one had a tank loco and 4 carriages.
Again, there was no set number on the base, but there were the same numbers, 9 and 54. This means that I was wrong to assume that the 54 relates to how many sets were made.
I was curious as to what the lines on the lid could be, so, on my 2012 set, I held the box lid over a kettle to soften the glue, and I made a cut in the lid. Underneath the yellow covering I could see a black no 5 sticker and the �Y� of the Railway on the Bing label.
Has any of you collectors any further information regarding the numbering on the box bases, as I have lots of other sets with similar numbers. Also, has anyone any ideas as to why Bing would cover the whole lid of a Bing no 5 set and stick on a Gamages label.

I've taken a picture of the Gamages label so if any collector wants a copy, hopefully you can download it from the 'Finished lid' file.

Many thanks.
Geoff.

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#2 | RE: Gamages / Bing box set no 5 datum

14.11.2014 19:37

Dear Geoff,

thank you very much for presenting these rare Gamages sets to us. I think for us Germans Gamages sets are even harder to find than for the British collectors. So in fact I cannot contribute too much, just because I do not own any of these sets.
So many thanks for providing us with the nicely restored Gamages label!

Anyway, I think the reason for covering the lid of Bing set and stick a Gamages label on it is quite simple. I believe that Bing just took sets from inventory whenever they recieved an order from Gamages, glued a yellow paper over the Bing label and stuck on a Gamages label.
Or with other words, I think Bing did not produce sets on demand for Gamages, but used what was already available.

Unfortunately I have no idea what the numbering 9 and 54 could mean...

Regards,
Patrick

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#3 | RE: Gamages / Bing box set no 5 datum

02.04.2017 11:11 (zuletzt bearbeitet: 02.04.2017 11:37)

Dear all,

after all I could manage to find another Gamage Set - It's the electric set No 2.

The set was not complete, there were missing some tracks (black sleepers without BW marking) and also the inserts were incomplete; I rebuilt them as good as I could.

The loco has the BW Bavaria marking which might be an indication for a very early set 1925, matching also the black coloured box.

The station seems a little odd, because it is an early yellow-brick station. So far I never a saw a yellow station in an electric set...
It carries the BW Germany sign:

The regulating rail was also missing and I completed the set with a regulating rail for low current (7302/22), even so I believe originally it contained the one for low and high current (7302/30 and 7302/31).
The special insert for this regulating rail was missing then as well.

The numbering on the backside of the set is again the "54" and the "15" instead of the "9". Still I don't know the meaning.

The original price tag is still there and I think it reads 27/6. comaprative pricing is avaialble in the 1925 Booklet No 3 (31/6), 1926 Bing Trains and Rolling Stock (33/6) and 1928 Basset Lowke (30/-)

Best wishes

Patrick

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#4 | [Bing] [Tischbahn] - 11/935/5 (61/3600/5) The Trains in the Yellow Boxes Set No 5 datum

05.07.2019 16:47 (zuletzt bearbeitet: 07.07.2019 22:48)

Hallo Zusammen,

als Ergänzung das Set No. 5 in der gelben Schachtel, die leider mal einen Wasserschaden hatte.

Interessant ist, dass beim Deckelbild ein Streifen Papier über den Schriftzug 'Miniature Table Railway' geklebt ist, gekauft habe ich das Set in Spanien und es enthält einen passenden 'Continental' Zug

Die Artikelnummer 11/935/5 weist jedenfalls auf einen Verkauf auf dem Kontinent hin

Nachdem oben schon das LNER und das LMS Set in der Gamages Verpackung zu sehen sind, fehlen nur noch die GWR und die US-Version.

Viele Grüße
Patrick

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