#1 [Brimtoy] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' - [zunächst unbekannter Hersteller, nun zugeordnet] von DustDBugger 27.02.2015 12:53

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Habe aus UK einen offenen Güterwagen erhalten - gemarkt mit 'Made in Great Britain'. Kennt jemand den Hersteller? Die Machart entspricht der einer Kaufhausbahn. Die Achshalter sind aus einem Stück mit am Wagenkasten und durch die Bodenplatte gesteckt.

Könnte das Brimtoy sein? Die kleinen Puffer und die schwarze Kunststoffbodenplatte sehen danach aus - obwohl mir nur vierachsige Waggons von Brimtoy bekannt sind.

Vielen Dank im Voraus!









#2 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von sg067340 11.03.2015 11:42

Hi Bernhard,

I thought I had one similar somewhere in my train boxes, and I've managed to find it. It is the same as yours with a slight variation. Maybe yours was altered to fit the tinplate connecting hooks.

I didn't know who the manufacturer was, but I showed it to my friend Jeff Carpenter, who said that it was probably Brimtoy.

I've looked around many web sites but never seen anything like it, until yours.

Regards,

Geoff Shields.

#3 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von Dieter Weißbach 11.03.2015 12:33

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Hi Geoff,

thanks for your reply.

Both trucks are prepared for two different types of couplings / connection hooks
because they have the same holes pressed in.

This is an interesting tinplate truck showing the typical english truck brakes.

#4 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 11.03.2015 12:42

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Hi Geoff,
awesome! Thanks for your reply. Despite the coupling it is pretty much the same. I guess my car with the metal hooks is an earlier version. So I wasn't that wrong to bring in Brimtoy as manufacturer. It's hard to find informations about Brimtoy. I only know the the goods train and the passenger train packages with the blue Class 37 diesel loco and the green streamline steam loco with passenger cars. Do you know a UK website with more informations about Brimtoy trains? But anyway thanks a lot!

Best, Bernhard

#5 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von www.spur00.de 30.03.2015 21:25

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Hey Geoff and Bernhard

unfortunately I also can not shed any light on it.

Just can add another one a closed wagon


It is marked Great Britain.

I do have some scans of Brimtoy catalog pages. In this you can see the blue Diesel, the Esso tanker, open truck and passenger coach. Additionally there is a truck (2 axle 7 plank)
a closed wagon is not mentioned.

However I do not think these wagons are Brimtoy, the reason is the coupling. The hole in the loop is oval, the same as at Bernhards. I think this is quite specific. I do not know any company which made such a hole.

All of them just punched a square slot into the metal.

Back to Brimtoy. I know these sets:

Blue Deltic with Esso and open truck
Blue Deltic with two curtain coaches
Blue Deltic with two "curtain" coaches, railroad croosing and hut


Red "HWN" Streamlined steam engine with tender and two ELECTRIC LINE line coaches

The box of this set is marked Modelex Miniatures Made in GT Britain but the coaches are definetely the same make

Greetings

Rainer

#6 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 30.03.2015 23:08

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This is going to be an interesting topic. Rainer - maybe you're right with the idea it couldn't be Brimtoy - the coupling doesn't fit really with the hook on the Brimtoy diesel loco. But who is manufacturer then?
BTW: the streamlined steam loco exists in green color too (with clockwork). I missed this version in January on Ebay UK.

Best,
Bernhard

#7 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 30.03.2015 23:11

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Rainer,
ist es möglich die Brimtoy Katalog-Seiten hier oder auf Deiner Webseite zu zeigen? Die Züge bzw. Packungen habe ich schon gesehen -aber gedrucktes ist auch ganz schön.
Bernhard

#8 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 04.04.2015 18:40

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Habe mal den Wagon mit der Brimtoy Lok fotografiert:



#9 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von www.spur00.de 30.10.2016 13:05

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Dear all,

I think finally I can confirm that these trucks are Brimtoy.
A while ago I managed to buy the green streamlined steam loco with two passenger coaches.

Unfortunately the tender was missing, However this loco is pretty hard to find, so I decided to go for it despite the missing tender.





Now only a couple of weeks later I was already very lucky to find the missing tender so I was able to complete the loco.




However the tender is what makes me think that the goods wagons are also from Brimtoy.

These Brimtoy trains look very much like those of HWN, however there is one big difference. All Brimtoy wagons have plastic chassis while those of HWN are tin.

Taking a closer look to the chasis of the tender now showed the following picture

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The axle bearings and side frames being one part with the wagons/tender body is quite a unique way of manufacturing.
Also the buffers look identical.

So I would think it is save to conclude that both are from the same manufacturer.

Greetings

Rainer

#10 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 30.10.2016 16:37

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Hello Rainer,
that are indeed great news! From time to time I'm looking for these goods wagons - but it seems they're very rare. So it is nearly impossible to get any informations... Thanks again for finding this out. Best, Bernhard

#11 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von Dieter Weißbach 30.10.2016 18:14

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Hello Bernhard,

should we change the word [unbekannt] in the title of the first post to [Brimtoy] now ?

Regards
Dieter

#12 RE: [unbekannt] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' von DustDBugger 30.10.2016 19:03

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Hallo Dieter,
absolutely - please change it to Brimtoy

Bernhard

#13 RE: [Brimtoy] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' - [zunächst unbekannter Hersteller, nun zugeordnet] von Dieter Weißbach 30.10.2016 19:52

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... done

Dieter

#14 RE: [Brimtoy] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' - [zunächst unbekannter Hersteller, nun zugeordnet] von www.spur00.de 18.11.2019 00:30

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Hallo zusammen,

nach langer Zeit mal wieder etwas auf diesem Sektor.

Frisch aus England mitgebracht, der Brimtoy Guards Van mit Kunststoffchasis



Grüße

Rainer

#15 RE: [Brimtoy] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' - [zunächst unbekannter Hersteller, nun zugeordnet] von DustDBugger 18.11.2019 00:49

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Hallo Rainer, sehr schönes Modell! Ich hatte das schon mal auf Ebay UK gesehen - aber nicht ansatzweise in diesem schönen Zustand. Beste Grüße, Bernhard

#16 RE: [Brimtoy] Spur 00 offener Güterwagen 'Made in Great Britain' - [zunächst unbekannter Hersteller, nun zugeordnet] von sammelwahn 18.11.2019 15:28

Hallo,
ein sehr interessantes Thema. Dieses findet man auch in Band 4 der Michael D. Foster Buchreihe. Allerdings ist in diesem Thread schon fast das Gesamtprogramm zu sehen. von den 2-Achsigen Güterwagen gab es wohl nur 4, der Viehwagen fehlt hier noch.

mit bestem Gruß
Arne

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